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June 29, 1990

Minutes of the Meeting of the CIA delegation and the UOP [Office of State Protection] Intelligence Directorate on June 29, 1990

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Warsaw, July 4, 1990

 

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MINUTES
of the meeting of the CIA delegation and the UOP [1]Intelligence Directorate on June 29, 1990

 

1. Both delegations represented in full. Chairing Minister Krzysztof Kozłowski and Deputy Director of the CIA  Directorate of Operations Paul Redmond.

 

2. The fundamental points made by Minister K. Kozłowski:

 

- the purpose of the transformations going on in Poland is to return to Europe. One of the important tasks facing the security services is to break the barriers on the way to this objective;

 

- the intelligence services need not be a threat to peace – they can serve it through their activities in the sphere of information circulation;

 

- We desire long-term, fruitful and concrete cooperation with the CIA. On our way to Europe we are faced with unknown problems and threats. We hope that cooperation with the CIA will help us solve problems and overcome barriers. We count on concrete results in cooperation in the fight against international terrorism. In the light of the Polish Government's commitment to transfer Jews from the Soviet Union, we are aware of terrorist threats;

 

- The UOP and the Intelligence Directorate are in the process of organization. We are building new structures. We look forward to using the experience of the CIA. Thank you for the information you have offered so far;  as regards the organization of the Foreign Broadcast Information Service in Warsaw, "we are generally in favor". We are considering the matter, but we must take into account the reaction of the Soviet Union, if any;

 

- UOP intelligence will focus mainly on Eastern and Central Europe. So far, the Polish intelligence service has not been interested in this part of the world.  The evolution in the USSR largely determines how the course of the processes of change in Poland. The German problem is important to us. We hope that German reunification will mark the beginning of the process of European unification. In these matters, the intelligence service may play a key role if it ensures the supply of good objective information;

 

- We are significantly reducing our U.S. residencies, which means that we will cease active operations.

 

3. Points raised by P. Redmond:

 

- The CIA proposed opening dialog with the Polish intelligence service relatively late due to the sensitive location of Poland in Europe. However, this does not mean that there will be any restrictions on the subject of discussions or on the issue of future cooperation;

 

- Mazowiecki’s talks with Webster, the volatility of the situation in the USSR and the danger of the Gorbachev’s downfall point to the need for cooperation between the two intelligence services."

 

Then Paul Redmond discussed:

 

- the structure of the so-called US intelligence community;

 

- the system of constructing the CIA budget;

 

- the interaction between the CIA, the Congress and the State Department (including the activities of the CIA Office of Congressional Affairs);

 

- practical observations on the work of residents and their cooperation with station heads;

 

- methods and rules for placing undercover posts and the means of financing for those posts by the CIA;

 

- the organizational structure of the CIA, with particular regard to the Information Operations Center.

 

In conclusion, Mr Redmond expressed his willingness to invite a group of intelligence and organization of the intelligence service structure experts to learn more about the experience of the CIA.

 

Compiled by K. Smoleński

 

[1]Urząd Ochrony Państwa (Office of State Protection), Poland’s intelligence and counterintelligence service (19902002) – trans.

Krzysztof Kozłowski (UOP) and Paul Redmond (CIA) discuss the intelligence services in Poland and the United States and the possibilities for cooperation.



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Polish the Institute of National Remembrance (IPN), bu 3558/89/2. Contributed by Tomasz Kozłowski and translated by Jerzy Giebułtowski.

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